tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1790030420507335953.post8817425565574860504..comments2024-03-23T08:21:07.075-07:00Comments on Points of Light: Legend & Lore: Rogue Design GoalsDavid Guyllhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16299128722345607123noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1790030420507335953.post-21935967401830585682012-05-15T07:42:50.843-07:002012-05-15T07:42:50.843-07:00That skill stuff does seem more than a bit wonky. ...That skill stuff does seem more than a bit wonky. I do like the committment to giving Rogues fast talking abilities, but with no roll?<br /><br />The problem with Thieves, as they were originally called, is that it doesn't sound like so much like a class as it is a job or outlook. Even looking at some of the fiction D&D was based on, Conan was a thief, but clearly a member of the fighter class. From the halfling thief archetype, we could guess Bilbo and Frodo were inspirations for thieves, but without the One Ring, they don't exactly have the same power level as Gandalf or Aragorn.<br /><br />To thrive in the 4-class environment of D&D, they need to have access to the same kind of abilities the other classes do. Instead of Bilbo, they should be based on movie and TV super-spies and other epic masters of subterfuge. It's all skill, but you don't know how they did it.<br /><br />Think stage magicians, rather than wizards. They should be scaling walls like wuxia heroes, making escapes worthy of Houdini, disguising themselves like they were on Mission Impossible, getting bonuses to elaborate heists and cons, and going from spot X to spot Y without anyone noticing like some kind of short range teleportation. I want my thief to surprise the party by taking off and opening the door from the other side. And in combat, I want my thief to face a bad guy that does a double take because the thief glued up his scabbard. I want the class tricksy well beyond the idea of sneaking up for more damage, which I find very dull indeed.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.com